But the water only gets heated up from 15C to 500C, so by 485C. Steam that has a higher temperature than the maximum temperature of the steam engine (165C) is consumed at the normal rate (30 units/s), and does not yield more electricity. So the 50,000C are enough to heat up 103 units of steam per second, since 50,000 / 485 = 103.09. https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Heat_exchanger&oldid=175988. u/asdjfsjhfkdjs calculated the convergents of 500:291, and found that 7 : 4 and 55 : 32 are both fairly accurate approximations. A heat exchanger produces 10 MJ a second, therefore it produces 10MJ / 0.097MJ = 103.0927835 steam per second. you should have a 2 by X rectangle with one reactor dangling off the end. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The Factorio devs plan some refactoring for the upcoming version 0.17. -adding a second off-shore pump to start off with twice as much water (in theory); -putting in more pumps, say one pump for every underground pipe; -putting in a complete second line from off-shore pump to heat exchangers with a pump every 5 underground pipes. Refer to Francis John play through video on YouTube on nuclear power. Ratio of heat exchangers to turbines is 1:2, don't bother building lots of pipes for 10% les turbines. There's no clear ratio as you need to account for heat bonus from other reactors but it's quite easy to calculate yourself, if you fuel the reactors it will show you produced heat in MW (with bonus) you just sum up all reactors and divide by heat exchanger power (all power/power per 1 hear exchanger) to get the number, then you do the same for turbines (all power/power per 1 turbine). Steam engines will automatically adjust their power production and steam usage based on the current demands of the electricity network. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. A powered nuclear reactor outputs 40 megawatts of heat, plus an additional 40 megawatts for each powered nuclear reactor directly adjacent to it. by mrvn Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:45 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Each steam turbine take a maximum input of 60 units of 500 C steam per second and outputs 5.82 megawatts of electricity; the 5.8 megawatts listed on the tooltip is rounded. can you post a screenshot/blueprint? This means a single unit of 500C steam has 5.82MW / (60/s) = 0.097 MJ of energy. I've confirmed that the true value is indeed 5.82, and updated everything accordingly. Then have a simple trigger than turns your nuclear plant on and off based on the storage tank steam levels. Includes pipe, pipe to ground, pump, offshore pump, heat pipe. Don't ask me how that works.). Thus, they can buffer 500 MJ of heat energy across their working range of 500C to 1000C, and require 485 MJ of energy to warm up from 15C to 500C when initially placed. Pump Ratio ^ 1. One offshore pump can supply 20 boilers and 40 steam engines. Heat exchangers produce ~103 steam with a temperature of 500C every second. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://wiki.factorio.com/Tutorial:Nuclear_power#Neighbor_bonus. Hence, each water pump can support a maximum of 40 steam generators. I found the cheatsheet and wiki which have been quite helpful. turbines, exchangers and reactor ratios will vary due to neighbor bonuses. 1 electric pump can keep up with rate of roughly 10 water pumps if i recall, so at least you don't need to have pump and waterpump flows in parallel. Fresh water is at 15C while the steam produced by heat exchangers and consumed by steam turbines is at 500C, a difference of 485C, so you need 1 unit of water for each 97kJ, which is roughly 10.3 units per MJ. 120 MW ^Note: Pumps, Steam Turbines and Power are approximate for easier build ratios. Or so. However you did warn me: Save often and reload if necessary during landfilling. Does the game consider 1 water = 1 steam (just a different temperature?) The optimal ratio is 0.84 (21:25) accumulators per solar panel, and 23.8 solar panels per megawatt required by your factory (this ratio accounts for solar panels needed to charge the accumulators). Factorio - The Best Nuclear Power Ratio To generate ten fuel cells, you will need one U-235 cell and nineteen U-238 cells. Is there any info about how much water per second Heat Exchangers use? The steam production rate can also be calculated using the energy consumption: 1 Heat exchanger consumes 10MW, so it's putting 10,000,000 joule of energy into heating water/steam per second. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. All rights reserved. EDIT NOTE: The original version of the post used the wrong output for steam turbines (5.8 MW instead of 5.82). A theory without practice is dead, practice without a theory is blind, this quote is attributed to commander Alexander Suvorov. makes troubleshooting easier. Use the lake west of your copper mine. Heat exchangers have a heat capacity of 1 MJ/C. I concur the ratio is 1:1 cerified through testing. If the only effect the mod has on the game is it changes the total length of one day, without changing the ratio of dusk: day: dawn: night, then the equation can be simplified as. All rights reserved. Looking for efficient setups? Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. This is taken from Accumulator / Solar Panel Ratio (which calculates this in an impressive mathematical way!) An offshore pump produces 1200 units of water per second, which is enough for 116.4 MW. It must be placed on a shoreline of a body of water on the map, and connected to a pipe or other object that accepts liquids. As shown, making the heat pipes thicker allows supporting heat exchangers that are farther away. Each turbine consume 60 water/s so 1200/60=20 turbines. Tutorial:Main bus. chrisgbk 6 yr. ago Technically the HX consumes the water and outputs an equal amount of steam. Heat exchangers produce ~103 steam with a temperature of 500C every second. 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Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free), Frequently Suggested / Link Collections, https://wiki.factorio.com/Power_product lear_power, https://mods.factorio.com/mod/AdvancedNuclear3, https://mods.factorio.com/mod/LandfillEverything. Are there enough steam generators (boilers, heat exchangers)? For each 100% neighbor bonus, the reactor needs 4 more heat exchangers. You can check the usage on the turbines as well as the production stat on the offshore pump. The main thing to remember is that Factorio generally follows the laws of thermodynamics; if your nuclear reactor produces 40 megawatts of heat, you can get a maximum of 40 megawatts of electricity out the other side. This equation could also be used to remember the vanilla optimal ratio given its simplicity. by Bauer Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:04 pm, Post Since heat exchangers consume 103.1 water each, a few dozen seems reasonable if . you can put 4 heat exchangers at the end of ~135 heat pipes, but you can put 16 heat exchangers only at the end of ~50 heat pipes. This allows steam engines to be chained together. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. These include the power generation of a solar panel, the energy storage of an accumulator, the length of a day, and the length of a night. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Also, the optimal ratio is: 1 offshore pump / 14 boilers / 10 steam engines is that 10 for each boiler? Heat exchangers produce 103 steam/second.This can be calculated by relying on steam turbine data: A steam turbine consumes 60 steam/second and produces 5.82MW (assuming 500C steam). The heat exchanger exchanges heat between a heat connection and water to produce steam . Finally, after 20 hours of work, I present the flowchart for Pyanodon Space Science! Mark IIIs are unable to complete a full cycle without going into meltdown and thus need to be shutdown mid-cycle in order to deal with the high amount of excess heat. This means that you need 1.428 MW of production (of solar panels) and 100MJ of storage to provide 1 MW of power over one day-night cycle. For more information, please see our The number of boilers can be derived from the number of steam engines: 40 2 = 20. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. . A heat exchanger consumes 10 MW. by Amarula Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:45 pm, Post HolyGarbage . A reactor without neighbor bonus needs 4 heat exchangers so that all its heat gets consumed. 40 MW of power output is consumed by 4 Heat Exchangers (10MW per Heat Exchanger ). Place some pipes or a tank at the end to see if there is really water coming through. which, given the default time lengths of: day = 12500/60 s; dawn or dusk = 5000/60 s; night = 2500/60 s, and the default: Solar_power = 60 kW; Accumulator_energy = 5 MJ = 5000 kJ, gives the optimal ratio of 0.84 accumulators per solar panel.
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